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	<description>Christopher Carolan on Financial Markets &#38; Lunar Cycles</description>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://spiralcalendar.com/2008/11/tired-begets-tired/comment-page-1/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - I have the tide program now. What are the 6 pieces of data you&#039;re looking at?  Your sheets only have three. I can&#039;t always see where Taylor gets his dates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; I have the tide program now. What are the 6 pieces of data you&#8217;re looking at?  Your sheets only have three. I can&#8217;t always see where Taylor gets his dates.</p>
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		<title>By: spotturn</title>
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		<dc:creator>spotturn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

sorry: Obviously I wasn&#039;t precise with my comment. I&#039;ll try again:

Your screenshots http://screencast.com/t/6mmWezpXU5m and http://screencast.com/t/Y0oPGR60 contain exactly the same data.

I find the Taylor-stuff very interesting. So I implemented my version with open-source-software and got to almost the same times (+-3 minutes) and exact the same tides as on your screenshot.

The nice thing about self-implementation is, that you have to decide all implementation details, which out-of-the-box tools do for you.

E.g. to what day does a tide belong to: Low-tide-time, high-tide-time or its mid-point?
IMHO a system should be result in comparable results independent of this decision to be robust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>sorry: Obviously I wasn&#8217;t precise with my comment. I&#8217;ll try again:</p>
<p>Your screenshots <a href="http://screencast.com/t/6mmWezpXU5m" rel="nofollow">http://screencast.com/t/6mmWezpXU5m</a> and <a href="http://screencast.com/t/Y0oPGR60" rel="nofollow">http://screencast.com/t/Y0oPGR60</a> contain exactly the same data.</p>
<p>I find the Taylor-stuff very interesting. So I implemented my version with open-source-software and got to almost the same times (+-3 minutes) and exact the same tides as on your screenshot.</p>
<p>The nice thing about self-implementation is, that you have to decide all implementation details, which out-of-the-box tools do for you.</p>
<p>E.g. to what day does a tide belong to: Low-tide-time, high-tide-time or its mid-point?<br />
IMHO a system should be result in comparable results independent of this decision to be robust.</p>
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		<title>By: humble1</title>
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		<dc:creator>humble1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>d31:

yes to all. :)

regards and good luck and thanks for the VIx comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>d31:</p>
<p>yes to all. <img src='http://spiralcalendar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>regards and good luck and thanks for the VIx comments.</p>
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		<title>By: spotturn</title>
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		<dc:creator>spotturn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

sorry, obviously I wasn&#039;t clear with my statement. So I&#039;ll try again:
http://screencast.com/t/6mmWezpXU5m and
http://screencast.com/t/Y0oPGR60 contain identical data.

Currently I reimplement the Taylor stuff with open source software and get almost the same dates/tides as you (difference in minima/maxima +-3 minutes, tides identical). Interesting stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>sorry, obviously I wasn&#8217;t clear with my statement. So I&#8217;ll try again:<br />
<a href="http://screencast.com/t/6mmWezpXU5m" rel="nofollow">http://screencast.com/t/6mmWezpXU5m</a> and<br />
<a href="http://screencast.com/t/Y0oPGR60" rel="nofollow">http://screencast.com/t/Y0oPGR60</a> contain identical data.</p>
<p>Currently I reimplement the Taylor stuff with open source software and get almost the same dates/tides as you (difference in minima/maxima +-3 minutes, tides identical). Interesting stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: deacon31</title>
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		<dc:creator>deacon31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks H1, i seem to recall you from late 1990&#039;s posting to Chris, were you at avid as well? i notice you are posting alot at young&#039;s site recently...the VIX in the old days it was fade the market when vix moved 10% away from 10DMA, but nowadays vix is moving 10% in one session for the fade, it went down over 10% on election day, and that worked for a big short, but first day vix +14% last weds. (the fade didn&#039;t work), as VIX went up +16% thurs. to get over the +30% in two sessions, which probably led to friday stocks up and today&#039;s gap up.
this is pre-op-ex week, and i always prefer a downswoop beginning by weds. to end the week, which sets up the cheap calls for an op-ex week blastoff..the hedge fund redemptions still in play this week, probably why we saw the gap fill today in NDX SPX and in crude oil...
spotturn-- if you press the button too hard an entry can post twice, or maybe it didn&#039;t show up right away due to slow internet and he pressed it again thinking it didn&#039;t take</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks H1, i seem to recall you from late 1990&#8242;s posting to Chris, were you at avid as well? i notice you are posting alot at young&#8217;s site recently&#8230;the VIX in the old days it was fade the market when vix moved 10% away from 10DMA, but nowadays vix is moving 10% in one session for the fade, it went down over 10% on election day, and that worked for a big short, but first day vix +14% last weds. (the fade didn&#8217;t work), as VIX went up +16% thurs. to get over the +30% in two sessions, which probably led to friday stocks up and today&#8217;s gap up.<br />
this is pre-op-ex week, and i always prefer a downswoop beginning by weds. to end the week, which sets up the cheap calls for an op-ex week blastoff..the hedge fund redemptions still in play this week, probably why we saw the gap fill today in NDX SPX and in crude oil&#8230;<br />
spotturn&#8211; if you press the button too hard an entry can post twice, or maybe it didn&#8217;t show up right away due to slow internet and he pressed it again thinking it didn&#8217;t take</p>
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		<title>By: spotturn</title>
		<link>http://spiralcalendar.com/2008/11/tired-begets-tired/comment-page-1/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>spotturn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

your two screenshots posted on Nov 6. contain exactly the same data...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>your two screenshots posted on Nov 6. contain exactly the same data&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: humble1</title>
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		<dc:creator>humble1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just as you said, d31: well done.  i will look for more of your comments/posts.

regards,

H1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just as you said, d31: well done.  i will look for more of your comments/posts.</p>
<p>regards,</p>
<p>H1</p>
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		<title>By: deacon31</title>
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		<dc:creator>deacon31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VIX up +30% in 2 sessions implies market can&#039;t close lower than yesterday after 3 sessions...can find fibs around 900 SPX, i like the the 839.8-1167 range that provided a 50% number of 1003, and .887 fib at 877</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VIX up +30% in 2 sessions implies market can&#8217;t close lower than yesterday after 3 sessions&#8230;can find fibs around 900 SPX, i like the the 839.8-1167 range that provided a 50% number of 1003, and .887 fib at 877</p>
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		<title>By: deuxsous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Page ~55-98 of Paradigm are the meat of it. Read that sometime just to get the feel for the concept. I have the Nobeltec program that the brother twins described ,but there are also some free programs that do almost  the same things. The appendices are an apologia for the commercial subscription in my opinion.

Nobeltec&#039;s Tides32 does it in spreadsheets which saves me a lot of time, and it has a search function.

The book itself reads well and outlines the basics. It&#039;s not as good as Brown&#039;s da Vinci  but it&#039;s pretty good and entertaining. That genre of fiction is fairly well played out, but with the current financial meltdown I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see Taylor&#039;s book, ghost written I feel, get to the screen and tube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Page ~55-98 of Paradigm are the meat of it. Read that sometime just to get the feel for the concept. I have the Nobeltec program that the brother twins described ,but there are also some free programs that do almost  the same things. The appendices are an apologia for the commercial subscription in my opinion.</p>
<p>Nobeltec&#8217;s Tides32 does it in spreadsheets which saves me a lot of time, and it has a search function.</p>
<p>The book itself reads well and outlines the basics. It&#8217;s not as good as Brown&#8217;s da Vinci  but it&#8217;s pretty good and entertaining. That genre of fiction is fairly well played out, but with the current financial meltdown I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see Taylor&#8217;s book, ghost written I feel, get to the screen and tube.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tom.  I just got Taylor&#039;s book.  I don&#039;t have time for a novel right now. Is all the forecasting stuff in the appendices?  Or is there info in the novel as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom.  I just got Taylor&#8217;s book.  I don&#8217;t have time for a novel right now. Is all the forecasting stuff in the appendices?  Or is there info in the novel as well?</p>
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